Hi all! In this episode, Josh and I talk to Tom Sallee a bit about his perspective on the American Dream and get a view on the differences between union and non-union work. Then we continue to BS a little after that about just regular ole normal shit. 

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I do make mention, if you are right out of high school or just looking for a fresh start, you can head to UA Local 440 Plumbers, Steamfitters, and HVAC Technicians JATC Training center at 1521 Brookville Way in Indianapolis and check it out. Fill out an application! With great pay, benefits, and the best training, you can start to live your American Dream. If you would like to learn more go to this web page for UA Local 440.

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